w3 :: #css

17 Mar 2017
00:08fantasaimyles: http://fantasai.inkedblade.net/weblog/2011/inside-csswg/ might be helpful?
00:10fantasaimyles: For FPWD, if you've got a rough sketch of the featureset, in a form that matches what the WG thinks is a good idea, that's good enough. If there's parts missing from an earlier level, just put in an ISSUE that says to add it in so we know it's missing
00:10fantasaimyles: As some examples...
00:11fantasaimyles: The Paint spec is ready for FPWD: https://drafts.fxtf.org/paint/ It's a ton of issues, but you can see how the features work and how they fit together and implement key interactions through cascading and inheritance
00:11fantasaimyles: The Backgrounds 4 spec isn't really ready, it's just some rough ideas and it's hard for anyone but the editors to know what's going on https://drafts.csswg.org/css-backgrounds-4/
00:11fantasaimyles: plus it's super incomplete
00:12fantasaimyles: https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-decor-4/ is ready for FPWD, pending a few edits from the Seattle F2F. It's missing large parts because it diffs off of level 3, but that's okay
00:13fantasaimyles: css-rhythm was held back from FPWD for awhile because there were some features that were designed badly, and that prevented consensus to move forward. Once those were removed / fixed, it was accepted for FPWD
00:14fantasaimyles: The first iteration of Grid layout from Microsoft was based on abspos, and didn't have the ability for layouts to respond to their contents; it was returned for further work
00:16fantasaimyles: The next iteration looks very different from the current Grid Layout https://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-css3-grid-layout-20110407/ but had a core concept that was going to work and was going in the right direction, so it got the consensus of the WG even though there were more superficial design issues raised
00:16fantasaimyles: Hope that helps :)
00:18fantasaimyles: everything in Fonts 4 has consensus, so as long as the draft is in a state that's understandable to others and complete enough that we can get what it's doing and where it's going, it's good enough
00:18fantasaimyles: Doesn't matter if details are rough, and there's lots of open issues and things to work out and discuss -- point of the publication is to solicit feedback
00:19fantasais/what it's doing/what it's trying to do/
23:11liamdauwhe, you stayed at the delta chelsea in toronto for booknet last time i think? was it OK?
23:11dauwheliam: that's the event hotel? Yeah, it seemed fine. I don't remember anything about it as I was busy frolicking in Toronto.
23:13liamok, thanks :-)
23:13dauwheliam: http://www.chelseatoronto.com/
23:13* liam leaning towards "bE SixFifty" instead, last time I stayed at the Chelsea it was really run down but i think they renovated.
23:13liamthanks
23:13dauwheliam: it's much better than the comfort inn by the airport where I was stuck earlier this week :)
23:13liamhah ok, well, yeah
23:14liami used to like a hilton near toronto airport but they renovated away all the character
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