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11 Jul 2017
08:39anddamin Password and Keys I have "Gnome2 Key Storage" locked, is this supposed to be locked?
08:40anddammy current user password cannot unlock it, I may have changed the user password since the user was created, I don't know what it wa stho
08:40anddamtho'
08:41anddamif that should be unlocked, how can I delete the entry shown in Password and Keys and have an accessible Gnome2 Key Storage item in Certificates section?
08:47anddamI see there are reports of same issues on web, but I couldn't find a solution
08:56anddamah nvm https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1532681
08:56anddamit's a Seahorse "artifact", from a software pkcs11 GNOME lib
09:17anddammm and yet I cannot import to "User Key Storage" it asks for "Gnome2 Key Storage" pin
09:53anddamI see the issue is 'user-pin-initialized' flag in Gnome2 Key Storage
09:53anddama fresh new user on same system doesn't have the flag and doesn't show the locked storage at all in Seahorse
10:39ogutierrez[m]hi there. We are developing an "extension" for gnome-tweak-tool, and we want to run the tweak tool without installing it. The problem is that we are not able to do it. Is there any way to easily execute the tweak tool without having to build an entire gnome with jhbuild, or install it in our system?
10:44anddamupdate, I was able to properly display only User Key Storage by moving ~/.local/share/keyring/user.keystore and restarting the session
10:44anddambut now I cannot import an X.509 certificate in Password and Keys, that is Seahorse
10:46anddamI can select the certificate file in the import dialog, I can open it and see the details of the certificate in the preview but then the Import button is greyed out
10:46anddamany hint there?
13:47hussamThis is very offtopic but I would like to point out that I think Linux is much easier to use than Windows. I fixed two computers running XP and Vista today. it was the first time I use windows in ~15 years. It is impossible to get anything done. configuring network printers required black magic.
13:49hussamCUPs is a blessing.
13:57azakihussam: well, to be fair, it would have to be a comparison between linux distributions from the xp/vista era compared against those OSes. =p
13:59hussamazaki: I understand. I am sure Windows 10 is light years ahead.
14:03azakihussam: i dunno, i havent used it much. =p
14:21hussamazaki: they did push a lot of public betas and they let you use windows 10 for free with a digitally activated license if you log on with your microsoft insider account and keep updating to a new build a few times a year so the real life testing is obviously better.
14:22hussamI'm probably just used to how Linux works though or at least more comfortable with it.
14:26azakifor the longest time i was confused on why printers didn't show up automatically
14:27azakithen i realized i had to get avahi and mdns
14:27azaki=p
14:27azakii use arch linux so it's not configured with those by default.
14:27azakinow i make sure to do that on all systems.
14:29azakilinux has definitely gotten better. i've been using it since the kernel 2.2.x days
14:31azakilong before udev and hotplug stuff. it was pretty annoying back then. it was so awesome when all the usb and hotplug stuff started landing, and then later we got to the point where we could run X11 without having to configure it first. it would just autodetect everything.
14:31hussamazaki: late 90s here with mandrake, suse and then fedora core. That was probably at 2.4 kernel.
14:31azakii started on mandrake 7.0 and then later slackware 7.1
14:31hussamazaki: yes, hal was a problem.
14:32azakiboth of those are kernel 2.2.x i think and were around 1999-2000
14:32azakiwhich is when i started.
14:32hussammandrake was pretty sweet.
14:32azakii didn't learn much on mandrake though, which is why i switched to slackware. i was stuck in console for like a week before i got X working XD
14:33azakiwas quite the learning experience. i learned a lot about compiling packages and how everything is put together, and which packages do what
14:33hussamfirst time I recompiled was libreoffice on FC2
14:34azakimandrake was pretty user friendly though for it's time. which is one reason i didn't learn much on it. it kind of just worked for the most part after i installed it.
14:34hussambefore moving to arch (and recompiling more things) in 2006
14:34azakiback then distributions had all sorts of scripts and weird stuff for automating hardware discovery and configuration, all of that magic was downstream.
14:35azakinow most of the magic has moved upstream which is nice.
14:36hussamit also makes the term "software distribution" more correct.
14:37azakii stuck with slackware 7.1 for way too long, it got to the point where i couldn't install new software because of outdated libs, and couldn't compile them either for same reason, as well as gcc errors and so on.
14:37azakieventually i switched to gentoo
14:38azakiused that for many years (also sabayon for a short time which is based on gentoo, before going back to gentoo itself)
14:38azakithen finally switched to arch because i got sick of compiling packages =p
14:39azakii also used ubuntu on a few machines in the house that i didn't want to do much hands-on maintenance on.
14:40azakigot annoyed with that once they switched to unity, so i was glad to hear the news of them going back to gnome+wayland recently. =)
14:41aperezdcSo, I have a question about GNotification... It seems that using G_NOTIFICATION_PRIORITY_HIGH translates into NOTIFY_URGENCY_CRITICAL
14:41azakii also tried fedora back during version 22 or 23, i forget which. i liked it. i'll probably install it again in awhile (that hard drive died)
14:41aperezdcand I was wondering whether that should be NOTIFY_URGENCY_NORMAL instead
14:41aperezdcrelated: https://github.com/aperezdc/revolt/issues/67
14:41hussamyes, the Linux desktop needs more collaboration and not every vendor doing different things.
14:41azakii like that fedora has stopped being a "distro for developers previewing new stuff" and has actually become a real user distro nowadays.
14:42azakihussam: yeah, systemd made me really happy because honestly, the init system was one of the weirder things when i started using linux. i remember installing vmware on slackware and having to do all sorts of weird shit to make it's modules start at init.
14:44azakii like that systemd standardizes stuff. and it also makes it a lot easier to create frontends for init management since it has a declarative options in unit files instead of bash scripts.
14:45hussamaperezdc: you probably want to ask in #gtk+
14:47aperezdchussam: thanks, I'll join the channel and ask there
15:02wahibdonso, I just upgraded to fedora 26. I use gnome 3.24.2. Because of some stuff I don't really understand that I read online, I am under the impression that with gnome 3.24.2 and fedora 26 that gnome would be able to use the RPMfusion nVidia drivers on weyland
15:03wahibdonIs this a thing that is real?
17:52wahibdonso, I just tried to log in using "Gnome in Xorg" from the dropdown at the login screen. It kept kicking me back to the login screen to log in. I had to select "Gnome" from the drop down to get back to a desktop session.
23:47paineHello, good night.
23:48paineI've isntalled this program, Tribler, a torrent client. It's pretty neat.
23:49paineI was planning on using it as I used to do with Transmission, with it seeding in the background while I was going around doing my business.
23:50paineThough with Transmission, you could close it, and it would still run. You could access it with that cool sliding sidebar GNOME has by the bottom-left corner of the screen.
23:51paineTribler doesn't have that. So most of the time it's occupying my screen space. Even though I only see it when I hit the super button, mostly.
23:52paineAs it doesn't have a daemon mode, I would like that it behaved the same way Transmission did, that is, when closed, it would become an icon in the sidebar.
23:53paineIs there a Gnome extension for that?
23:53paineTo make more programs compatible, to integrate them with that sidebar?
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